Sam Seder, liberal host of The Majority Report and the voice of Hugo in Bob's Burgers, went on the YouTube channel Jubilee, where they throw one guy in a room with 20 political opponents and see what happens.
At one point, the staunch leftists said, "Unless you're a billionaire, religious fundamentalist, or xenophobic nationalist, voting for Trump was a mistake."
And boy was that a mistake…
(This clip is 5 minutes long but it gets better the more you watch. I promise.)
Seder: 'You want to impose your religious doctrine on me, and I don't want that!'
Eleazar: 'You just admitted we need duties. We have responsibilities as a society to keep us functioning and to keep us thriving. Your leftist view, the liberal view, doesn't provide anything besides 'It just makes me feel good.' Religion does. So what's your argument?'
Seder: '...First of all, I don't think you have the right to corner what God is telling us is right or wrong, and there are differences between religions, and so my argument is, you know, you're not going to keep halal or kosher, right? I don't believe someone has a corner on religious truth. And the reason why we have a democracy is because we don't want a king, and kings came from the idea that their god said that they're the one that's supposed to be king.'
Seder had to get really squishy in his logic there. He says no one has a "corner on religious truth," but believes his subjective interpretation of truth is the one that best governs society. He's making an objective truth claim while claiming to be neutral or inclusive or subjective!
Eleazar (@eazydebates) absolutely dismantled his stance on religious fundamentalism and moral relativism, exposing its inconsistency.
Seder opposes "religious fundamentalism" due to its alleged "theocratic" nature — imposing an objective moral framework — yet his own humanist worldview reduces morality to majority rule; a mere preference.
Eleazar challenged him: What if the majority strips trans people of rights? Or what if folks decide pedophilia is okay? Seder objected, taking a morally objective stance himself on the matter, revealing his position's contradiction.
Eleazar implied that a moral framework is always imposed — it's just a matter of which one.
Eleazar: 'My final point is, whenever we see people live out Christian values to its full extent, we see a great society. When we see people deviate from that, that's when all the problems arise.'
Here's the full debate if you want it:
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